Podcast episodes

Teaching Meaning (2026)

Marcus Luther and I explored some of the principle ideas in my book, Teaching Meaning.

Sense-making and Cybernetics in Classroom Teaching (2025)

Nick Covington and I explored themes on enactive cognitive science, cybernetics, and meaning making, and how they mark a difference from mind-as-computer pedagogies.

Knowledge Doesn’t Equal Understanding (2025)

Drew Perkins and I explored the problems of suggesting that knowledge equals understanding.

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